DebConf13/Switzerland/minutes-20111013
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Location: Neubrückstrasse 55, 3012 Bern, at Kevin Mueller's place,http://map.search.ch/bern/neubrueckstr.55
Time: 1900 - 2145 (trains leave around 2200)
Connections: Zürich ab: 1802, Geneva dep.: 1710, Lausanne dep. 1745
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[edit] Agenda / Minutes
[edit] Greeting, newcomers
No newcomers for today, although Xavier Oswald manifested interest on the mailing list, he'll be there for next meeting.
[edit] ToDo items from last meeting - short status
- gismo
- Creates (and manages ACLes) the alioth space to store the private stuff.
- space created on people.debian.org
- move that to git.debian.ch?
- gismo doesn't care. Advantage is that we can use ssh keys.
- Decision: gismo moves the documents store to git and informs people to get their keys.
- move that to git.debian.ch?
- space created on people.debian.org
- Handles the initial bootstrapping of the document presenting what DebConf is, what are the needs, etc. Including discussion with debconf-team@
- license and redistribution of Richard Darst's DebConf(10) blog posts
- Discussion happenned on lists, opinions were to not have documents but store most on the wiki.
- There is a draft document "pending" on gismo 's laptop
- Decision: gismo sends what he has (in french) on the list and then everyone reviews and translates to english.
- Contacts Melchtal.
- Creates (and manages ACLes) the alioth space to store the private stuff.
- cate
- Does the mailing lists dance (subscribe .ch to lists.debconf.net)
- Done. with help of Gaudenz, it's now working.
- Does the mailing lists dance (subscribe .ch to lists.debconf.net)
- Michele
- contacts Vaumarcus.
- Done.
- contacts Vaumarcus.
- Gaudenz
- Contacts Lenk
- Not done, as it's probably not suitable (as gathered from the website).
- Contacts Fiesch
- Would be suitable, but not contacted yet. To be contacted though.
- Big dormitories, more than 1k places, hotels around
- Not clear from the website if they have 'big enough' talk rooms.
- handles responsability for drafting an initial rough budget.
- Not done yet.
- Contacts Lenk
[edit] Venue
- Data point: we need wheelchar accessibility.
[edit] Lausanne
- OdyX contacted UNIL+EPFL with a nice mail explaining what Deb{Conf,ian} is and asking for informations. What was answered is "best dates is during vacations"; which we already new.
- Opinion: Good backup plan but probably too hard for hosting and catering.
- University campus is nice for talk rooms and hackerspaces but bad for hosting.
- City is expensive for talk rooms and hackerspaces but good (~better) for hosting.
- Opinion: Good backup plan but probably too hard for hosting and catering.
[edit] Geneva
- Michele got a concrete offer (PDF available on the private space), at UniMail.
- Princing is negotiable and already affordable.
- Current distances to potential hosting places is 10 minutes on bus (½ hour walking).
- The professor from UNI must advocate issue is on good paths, probably not a problem.
- There is a wide range of options for hosting, including Civil Protection bunkers, Youth Hostel, various hostels, university dormitories, etc.
- Data point: there are people in Geneva preparing the RMLL 2012, probably at Palexpo, hosting 3k persons also "cheap".
- OdyX will provide the names to Michele for interactions seeking.
- No news about CERN for now; is further though.
- Opinion: Can be good if we accept to host guests in Civil Protection bunkers.
[edit] Zurich
- 'cate'
- Zurich gives 15.- per person for any conference.
- For the offer to be given back, they need an exact date for the conference.
- ETHZ was contacted without much success.
- not much more new for now.
- Opinion: Well yes why not, but not far enough to decide. That plus cost issues.
[edit] Vaumarcus
- Michele
- Contacted "Le camp"
- Looks nice: accomodation place is more-or-less the size we need, travel is reasonably easy:
- 1h37 from Geneva-Airport to Concise-La Rochelle
- 2h59 from Zürich-Airport to Concise-La Rochelle.
- Everything in one place, awesome place, near nature, …
- Camping places would be possible around.
- Opinion: top-3, obviously.
[edit] Melchtal
- gismo
- Max: 600 persons
- Catering-House: 150.- CHF per day (food is to be prepared by us).
- Talk rooms & hacklabs: in the MainHaus and SeminarStube.
- Good accessibility in bus (just besides)
- Further away from Geneva, more expensiver than Vaumarcus.
[edit] Fiesch
- Gaudenz
- There is a specific train station.
- In the Valliser mountains, so great place to be and to go.
- Not contacted yet.
- Prices are ~similar to Melchtal: 50 - 60 CHF /night /person.
- Everything is on their website: http://www.sport-feriencenter.ch/
[edit] other?
[edit] Shortlist for venues
[edit] Which venues should be investigated further
After a long and heated discussion, the following three options were chosen (that means that the other three get immediately stopped).
- Unordered top-3
- Fiesch
- With this side-point: somebody contacts them; if it does not work out, Fiesch gets immediatly replaced by Melchtal.
- Geneva
- Vaumarcus
- Fiesch
[edit] What's next in the venue selection process
- We need some sort of formal agreement for the bid selection.
- We need people to go to the various places and see in person what the infrastructures are and possibly take picture for the bid process.
[edit] Visits
- Geneva
- gismo goes to the bunkers
- done with Michele and people from Genève Tourisme on 2011-10-28 (Friday) at 09:00+0200
- LocationCheckList available at DebConf13/Switzerland/Geneva
- gismo goes to the bunkers
- Vaumarcus
- OdyX takes care that it's done (in coordination with Michele), together with people from the mailing list
- Fiesch
- gismo contacts them for offers; will handle with Melchtal if needed.
- done as per <mid:87aa8p7441.fsf@gismo.pca.it>
- gismo contacts them for offers; will handle with Melchtal if needed.
[edit] /!\ Don't forget to
- Announce the visit date and time on the mailing list
- Take the LocationCheckList with you
- Fill the LocationCheckList for your place
- Prepare the venue-specific wiki page (sub-page of Switzerland/ )
[edit] Document presenting the bid for external persons (venue, sponsors, ...)
[edit] Rough budget
[edit] possible sponsors
- brainstorming
- who has contacts to possible sponsors
[edit] preparation of the formal bid proposal
- who's responsible
- what needs to be done, distribute tasks
[edit] Next meeting
- 16. November 2011, 18h45
- 05. December 2011, 18h45
[edit] Varia
[edit] FLOSS contacts
- OdyX is in SwissLinux.org, and mentionned that on their IRC
- … Various other people. :->